Cobra Kai EPs converse [Spoiler]’s lengthy overdue return and the way the reunion was’ the facility’ Johnny needed to transfer ahead
A great Karate Kid figure has finally made its Cobra Kai debut.
The third season of the martial arts dramedy hit Netflix on Friday, and with it a Miyagi verse favorite returned. Elisabeth Shues Ali Mills, a former love interest of Johnny and Daniel, returned to the valley to reconnect with their exes. It offered an outsider’s perspective and a bit of wisdom that helped overcome the lingering tension between the two sensei.
Her return was very delightful in the show’s second season, which ended with Ali sending Johnny a friend request on Facebook. But in episode 9 of the final run, Shue finally appeared and came just in time to unite the former Nemes so they can prepare for the bigger battle ahead: defeating John Kreese and Cobra Kai once and for all.
Here TVLine speaks with executive producers and co-showrunners Josh Heald, Jon Hurwitz and Hayden Schlossberg about how they kept Shue’s looks, why Season 3 was the perfect time to bring her back, and why Ali “became the force that Daniel and Johnny together. “
TVLINE | How could you keep Elisabeth’s return so well guarded?
HEALTHY | We just threatened everyone! [Laughs] We discussed with all the performers: “Don’t post anything on social media, don’t comment on your friends or loved ones. Please keep this a secret. ‘ We had [everyone] Sign pretty strict nondisclosure agreements with unspecified consequences – I have no idea what they were – but it seems to have worked. We only led with a big, warm hug: “Hey, look around and see how special that is. Imagine how special it will be when people can discover it as a surprise. ‘We work with so many storylines on this show. It’s probably annoying to work for the marketing department at some level because we always ask that the funniest, sexiest moments be left out of the marketing campaign entirely.
But we remember the time when there was no internet. You weren’t bombarded with new clips every day and looked at pictures first, and the deluge of material that has now become commonplace and necessary to attract an audience in such a fragmented world. We remember going to the movies and for the first time spotting something that wasn’t in the trailer or in the commercials and how magical that was. It’s more difficult these days, but that doesn’t mean we won’t keep trying to do that.
TVLINE | I would imagine it was similar to the grand finale of season one.
HEALTHY | We did it with Kreese in the first season. Martin Kove is one of the show’s big champions, and we love that, but there have been many therapeutic phone calls throughout season one asking him not to say anything. The moment it is discovered, it will be an explosion and you will be able to talk about it forever because people will want it. It’s just going to be so much bigger. So that was the test balloon, I would say, to keep the secret with Ali.
TVLINE | Have you ever had plans to involve them right from the start? Why wait until season three to introduce Ali again?
SCHLOSSBERG | We held out our hand [Shue] Somewhere in season 2 after there was a show she could see. We knew she was aware of the show and had seen and liked it. We were in a good mood about the potential to work with her when the time was right. For the fan base who follows this story, the hardcore fans, it’s such a big moment to include them in the story so we really wanted it to be perfect.
We didn’t know 100 percent if we would get it because all sorts of external factors could arise. But once we got the green light for season three, it was one of the first things we discussed with Sony and our casting. We really wanted to make sure she would be there by the end of the season and everything worked out as you hoped it would when it came time to close the whole deal.
TVLINE | Using social media in the season 2 storyline seemed like the perfect way to piss off her return.
SCHLOSSBERG | From the start, we loved the idea of initially playing her character through the eyes of Johnny, who views her life on social media. We felt that many people could relate to this when it comes to old flames and friends from the past. We knew Johnny was interested in her and we loved that he saw her on Facebook and saw her life which is seemingly perfect. But when you meet her at the end of the season, it’s not just roses. She deals with her own problems and that was the story we told her that I think she was interested in and something that is relevant to a lot of people. The grass is always greener when you see someone’s life on social media, and it leads to a lot of comedy, but also some real moments with them. In the end, of course, it was only poetic that she was the force that brings Daniel and Johnny together at the end of the season.
TVLINE | Let’s talk a little about Ali’s effect on Johnny. I love the line when it tells him, “You have a future to find,” as if it were committed to his future. What did he learn from her and why did he need this reunion?
HURWITZ | Johnny’s life has been a mess for so long. He’s a man who has sabotaged himself at times in his life to be in that place where he begins to bond with a woman and who is scared, “OK, I could be serious about someone. ” [and it’s] The mother of my best karate student / surrogate son: “There is the typical jitter. He’s obviously been hooked to Ali in one way or another for all these years. To see her again and to get a little taste of the past with her, but also of the perspective of adult life, it is not only strong for him the side of his love life, but also in relation to LaRusso and the approach to Daniel.
Their involvement in those scenes with Johnny and Daniel at the country club leads these two guys who don’t seem to take a moment to think about their own roles and the problems they may be having, perhaps realizing that they may are not different. Although she hasn’t seen them in so many years just to spend some time with them again and be reminded of who they were in high school, she realizes that maybe she could give both of them a little wisdom that can help them move forward.
TVLINE | The scene in Golf N ‘Stuff with Johnny and Ali sitting outside on the bench: Why did you stop letting them kiss you?
HEALTHY | We paced back and forth on that almost kiss and almost got close, perhaps to say it could have been a real kiss. Ultimately, we wanted to save that moment on the steps where she was helping Johnny see that his life with Carmen made sense, and we didn’t want to feel like he needed a bit of talent to get there. It was more of an emotional connection [with Ali] than a physical one. That should be take away there.
TVLINE | Is there a chance we will see Ali again since Cobra Kai has already been renewed for a fourth season?
HEALTHY | We’re not going to comment on what our future plans are with someone who is a legacy character from these films other than saying that we still have a long story to tell. We always leave the door wide open so that anyone in the Miyagi verse can get on and off the series.